Wolf, © Didier Lindsey

Will A Washington Wolf Pack Die Tomorrow?

Photo courtesy of Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Just a few months ago, we celebrated the discovery of Washington State’s eighth wolf pack, called the Wedge pack. This pack is particularly important because it’s a border pack that helps maintain a link between wolves in Washington and Canada.  In a small population like this, genetic exchange between these populations is very important.

Recently, wolves have been accused of killing livestock in the Colville National Forest on the northeastern boundary of the state’s border with Canada.  Under the state’s wolf management plan, if wolves repeatedly prey on livestock, and nonlethal deterrents fail, the state can choose to kill wolves to protect livestock.  However, in this case, there is no solid evidence that wolves did kill livestock and no details provided of any nonlethal deterrents being tried.

Several wolf depredation experts, including myself have reviewed the state’s investigation reports and found that none of the injuries are characteristic of wolf predation on livestock.  Though I’m not a field investigator, I have personally evaluated more than one million dollars of livestock depredations due to wolves, and managed Defenders’ wolf compensation program from 1999 to 2011. We would have rejected these reports and considered them unrelated to wolf predation.  Just because wolves are in the area does not mean they are killing livestock, and scavenging from dead livestock left in the national forest is not a crime punishable under the Washington State wolf plan. These reports fail to prove that wolves killed or injured livestock, and the majority of the injuries — most of which are not even close to life threatening — can be easily classified as those commonly sustained by cattle ranging on national forest lands, inflicted by barbed wire, trees or bushes, moving debris during storms, and a host of other possibilities, including animals other than wolves.

Photo courtesy of Didier Lindsey

Despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary, the state has already used the complaints as a basis to kill a female wolf from the pack, and now has issued a kill order on the rest of the pack’s adult wolves. Since one of the adults has been fitted with a GPS collar, the state’s sharpshooters will find it all too easy to locate the pack and carry out this unjustified sentence, and they have been given the go-ahead to do so as soon as possible. It will mean the deaths of four adult wolves, and likely the death or forced captivity of the pack’s several pups as well. An entire pack wiped out based on circumstantial evidence that they were in the area and therefore responsible for the depredations.

Unless we act now, it appears that the Wedge pack could be eliminated this week — as early as tomorrow.  That’s why we’re asking our members and supporters to contact Governor Christine Gregoire (360-902-4111); Phil Anderson, Director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (360-902-2200 Assistant Director Nate Pamplin (360-902-2693); and the Washington Fish & Wildlife Commission (360-902-2267 or commission@dfw.wa.gov) today and respectfully tell them that this was the wrong decision. Tell them:

1)    Stop: Rescind the kill order! Don’t sentence an entire pack to death.

2)    Prove it: Conduct an independent review of the evidence to determine that wolves were at fault for the injuries, and publish the review’s findings. If the wolves are at fault, there should be no problem in proving it publicly.

3)    Start slow: If the review finds that the wolves are at fault, use non-lethal deterrents first. Sending sharpshooters after wolves should be the absolute last resort, not the go-to option.

Ask these officials to stand up for responsible wildlife management, not give in to fear and false information. If Washington starts down this path of killing wolves based on misidentification and speculation, no pack in the state will be safe.

90 Responses to “Will A Washington Wolf Pack Die Tomorrow?”

  1. Karen Watts

    Is it possible to find other ways to manage wildlife than with the violence of guns, traps, gas or poisons? I truly wish we could discover a few.

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  2. tosca hoffmann

    Defend the wolves in Washington. There are much more intelligent ways to co-exist with these special animals. They happen to make Washington a stand out state. Don’t make a huge mistake.-

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  3. Lucie Martineau

    1)Stop: Rescind the kill order! Don’t sentence an entire pack to death.

    2) Prove it: Conduct an independent review of the evidence to determine that wolves were at fault for the injuries, and publish the review’s findings. If the wolves are at fault, there should be no problem in proving it publicly.

    3) Start slow: If the review finds that the wolves are at fault, use non-lethal deterrents first. Sending sharpshooters after wolves should be the absolute last resort, not the go-to option.

    Stand up for responsible wildlife management, do not give in to fear and false information. If Washington starts down this path of killing wolves based on misidentification and speculation, no pack in the state will be safe.
    It is a crime and not responsible when we all know that wolves contribute to wildlife balance.

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    • MaryAnn Canning

      Couldn’t be better said:
      Lucia Martineau says:

      August 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm

      1)Stop: Rescind the kill order! Don’t sentence an entire pack to death.

      2) Prove it: Conduct an independent review of the evidence to determine that wolves were at fault for the injuries, and publish the review’s findings. If the wolves are at fault, there should be no problem in proving it publicly.

      3) Start slow: If the review finds that the wolves are at fault, use non-lethal deterrents first. Sending sharpshooters after wolves should be the absolute last resort, not the go-to option.

      Stand up for responsible wildlife management, do not give in to fear and false information. If Washington starts down this path of killing wolves based on misidentification and speculation, no pack in the state will be safe.
      It is a crime and not responsible when we all know that wolves contribute to wildlife balance.

  4. anonymous

    Phil Anderson, Director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (360-902-2200); and Assistant Director Nate Pamplin (360-902-2693)

    Everyone should call these people above. Tell them to stop the kill order.

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  5. Per-Ola

    Of curse there are other ways than guns and traps. Use of lifestock guard dogs (LGDs) is a good measure. Irish Wolfhounds (not the domesticated lame breed), Maremma Sheepdogs, Great Pyrenees, Anatolian Shepherds, Boerboels, Karelian Beardogs, etc, can work in packs to entice the wolves to hunt for food elsewhere. Even wolves, just like humans, follow the path of least resistance. Make it hard for them to prey on livestock, if that is what they do, by making it “uncomfortable”.
    There is no need to kill a wolf – period. These are majestic and (still) rare animals that deserve as much of the “American West” as we do.

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  6. Evelyn

    You got that RIGHT! Patrick, what gose around comes around, Karma. I hate senseless killings a direspect to mother nature and Gods creations. God loves his animals, they are here for a reason to keep natures balance.

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    • Jacki

      The problem is that Karma seems to have it’s hands full and is not working fast enough on these people.

  7. Tina Deraco

    I’ve tried the Governor’s office and been told that they’ve received a number of calls, but she has no ability to interfere with the outcome and to call Fish and Wildlife. I can’t find a way to talk to a person; all the options are non-related and automated. Who actually got through and how?

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    • Suzanne Stone

      Hi Tina,
      It’s important to remember that there are two levels of Fish & Wildlife that we’re talking about here. The decision to move forward with the kill order comes from the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, not the national U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service. Because it is the state department, the governor does have authority over it.
      If you’re still having trouble getting through on the phone, you can also send your message via email at http://www.governor.wa.gov/contact/default.asp

  8. Joan

    It sounds like another excuse to try to wipe out these beautiful animals once again the wolves were here first not us and not YOU! Did you forget that song Bless the Beast and the Children,one day you liars will face the music they unlike you belong here these have always been their mountains,their woods,their streams until greedy people came along and stole their homes killed their families but your kind did this before didn’t they!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  9. Carol Price

    Called the Governor’s office and was told she is in California. Then I tried her assistant and got a voice mail machine. I left my message, but I got the feeling that the people in the Dept. of Fish and Wildlife just do not care. They are puppets and they just follow orders from “above.” Mindless human beings who cannot think for themselves and governed by a Governor who probably leaves “little things like this” to her mindless subordinates.

    I am concerned that the cattle ranchers are never to blame in all of this. They need to take actions to protect their herds. They know there are wolves around and that the natural instict of the wolf (or any wild animal) is to feed itself. I am also disgusted that the state of Washington as well as other states in this country cannot respect the word “endangered.” I guarantee there will be no wolves left in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming or Montana if this killing isn’t stopped.

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    • Laura

      Carol your wrong. She Does care for the little things, Far more so then if we had had someone like Rossi in. Now That man cared only for himself and Washingtons knew it.

      I know for a fact The Governor loves animals (VERY much)
      As does her husband.

      I e-mailed Teresa as well. I also e-mailed F and W. If everyone does it can help. it really can. We need for them to know there are more of us then of the few Ranchers.

  10. Karen Schoen

    Why do people keep looking for ways to kill wolves? We brought them back from near extinction to what? Kill them again. The stupidity of these murdering idiots amazes me. They just want to kill. If the wolves killed a few cows, then let Defenders of Wildlife reimburse them.

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  11. bill crump

    At The Gate

    When you get to St. Pete’s gate – He won’t be there

    Dogs, cats, a horse, a deer, and a wolf
    will be waiting, reviewing your records

    They make all the decisions there
    They know what love is

    They can sense the ittiest-bit of it

    You better have had more than a tad of it
    and have used it often, or… you will be…

    “put down”

    copyright 2012 Bill Crump – All rights reserved

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  12. Susie Tron

    Hello, I am from Mexico City, I just called the number listed and they send me to different places. and to all the people they send me to, I told them that this news was known worldwide and it was a shame and bad image for them to allow this horrible crime towards nature. Also I send a message to the Governor Christine Gregoire. I received this reply:
    Thank you for contacting Governor Christine Gregoire. The Governor values your views and opinions. We want to assure you that the Governor’s Office reads these messages and, when appropriate, refers them to relevant agencies, staff, or the Governor herself. Because of the volume of e-mail we receive daily, however, we are unable to respond to every message. Thank you again for contacting the Governor.

    I hope with all my heart this pack can live in peace. Its horrible to see that some US States just want to erradicate from the face of the earth wolves. Sara Palin and Ken Salazar are the ones who hate Wolves.

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    • Suzanne Stone

      Thank you for calling from Mexico! Your email gave us all such hope today. We deeply appreciate your support for the wolves.

  13. Karen

    People need to call WDFW. Call the director Phil Anderson and Nate Pamplin.

    Phil Anderson, Director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (360-902-2200); and Assistant Director Nate Pamplin (360-902-2693)

    Send email comments to email address below to oppose the killing of the wedge pack.

    wildthing@dfw.wa.gov

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  14. Lorna Mcmullen

    Wolf packs kill to surive NOT for the fun or sport of it. when a pack kills it is to surive,the meat is EATEN to the bone.there would be not carcus just bone. Wild dogs kill for the fun the sport of it but NOT THE WOLF PACKs. the killings need to be really and honestly investagated and the pack watched closer to really see what is doing these killings. i bet you 10-1 the wolf pack in Washington is NOT THE CALPRET but they are the answer for an easy excape goat!!!!!! save these beautiful animals.

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  15. Helen A. Spalding

    We moved into the pack’s territory. WE killed off thier ancestors. We do not tolerate competition. Too bad. This pack SHOULD NOT be killed!

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  16. Deborah

    I got through to the governor’s office and spoke to a very pleasant woman who said they’d gotten a lot of calls.
    I called the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, waited to listen to the whole menu, and ended up pressing 8. I again spoke to a live human, a well-spoken man named Ron. He took the time (12 minutes) to explain their position, and gave me their URL to check on what their statement was. It seems that after five years they’ve confirmed that the livestock kills were the work of the wolves. I’m not saying I approve of killing wolves, and I am a longtime supporter of Defenders. But he took the time to talk to me, in a very calm and reasoned way, and as much as I love the wolves they may have a point. Judge for yourselves. You can read it here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/wedge/

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    • Suzanne Stone

      Thank you for having a reasoned discussion with Phil. We would not be fighting against this decision if we didn’t strongly believe that the evidence against the wolves was not related to their actions. The injuries, most not life threatening, are normal injuries that cattle routinely sustain while on the open range. The others were uncharacteristic of wolf predation. We believe Washington has rushed to judgement and misidentified wolf predation. In fact, when I spoke with Phil, he argued that all their field investigators have had recent training in wolf depredation investigations. I told him that was fine but the person who trained them all disagreed with their decision and felt strongly that these injuries were unrelated to wolf predation. He didn’t have a good answer for this. We don’t want innocent wolves to die needlessly. Beyond this, the state should be utilizing nonlethal measures to reduce potential conflicts.

  17. Gene Whitten

    Sent a FAX to the governors office calling for a stop to the kill order. And YES, she does have control over the Dept of Fish & Wildlife, through the director, who she hired as a member of the governor’s cabinet. But wildlife management should never be based on political expediency, except this situation has already been politicized. Good wildlife management should be based on facts and scientific research.

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  18. s. fern

    STOP THE KILL ~~~~ the wolf has just started to rebound, and the breeding between Canada strain and the Usa strain is vital to the breed. This is NOT necessary. HE Who has money to pay for this could also use that $ else where, not to just improve their own personal gains. ALL THINGS ON EARTH ARE FOR OUR USE > NOT ABUSE
    Respect nature

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  19. A. Suppo

    Wolves don’t hurt people! Stop the killing…don’t be a ruthless animal. It’s not who we are!

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  20. Laura Bruns

    Please do not allow killing of WOLVES…This is unconfirmed killing of livestock…Wolves are meant to be here as much as we are…Quit destroying the balance of nature…

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  21. ani ea

    Please stop cruel brutal terribel terrible act of kiling these beuatifull being so sad they have the right to live there on their land -on the land like you and me

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  22. Natalie

    What the hell is wrong with these people?! We’ve already stepped into the homes of many wild creatures this world does not belong to us therefore they should NOT kill those poor animals

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  23. Myra zocher

    Please do what is right and stop this kill before it is too late. You are sentencing these wolves to death, and we need them in our habitat. The babies will die or be forced into captivity, too. Just not right, please reconsider.

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  24. Brad K.

    Don’t waste time choir preaching here! Get on the phone/email to the officials in WA and let them know the world is watching! Tweet it, share it on Facebook, email your entire contacts list – get the viral message moving NOW! It’s 6:30AM in WA right now, let them come into the office to a million messages calling for this to stop!

    Thank you all for your compassion.

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    • Kathy Govreau

      I agree with what you say. Posting on here is great but phone calls to the officials is what is really needed! I have sent an email to them & will be calling when I get home.

  25. mad shadow

    The wolf is an important component of the ecosystem. Just because the the wolf packs are thriving because humans gave them a second chance, doesn’t mean humans have the right to go killing them.

    If state paid sharp shooters need target practice, send them to the rifle range. It is time we realized that wild life sharp shooters are obsolete and they should be removed from government payrolls and the salaries saved be put to something more useful…like insurance for children or health care.

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  26. Sonja Mazzola

    Please don’t do this, wolves have a place! They need a place, people keep pushing them out. This is cruel!!! Wolves like all creatures belong here.

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  27. robin yale

    I am pro wolf. have worked with wolves and wolf dogs for 22 years. And been studying them for my whole lifetime. I am aware of the pros and cons of wolves and what they are capable of. Without concrete confirmed proof of wolf kills, I cannot condone their been destroyed. Seen many dog packs do the same, i.e. great pyrs turning on their flocks amonst other dogs coupled w/guarding livestock. People need to treat each incidence as an individual circumstance and get all of the facts before going on a witch hunt.

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  28. James Horner

    Simbiosis. Let’s live together. Manage these animals, not kill them out of hand.

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  29. Jen Finley

    Here’s a thought, money talks. People have a lot more power than we think. Even if people cannot prevent the senseless slaughter of this wolf pack, we can use our dollars to send asstrong message that this kind of brutality will not be tolerated. Refuse to spend tourist dollars in the state. Don’t purchase products from there when at all possible.
    We live in a capitalist society and can use that fact for the benefit of those unable to defend themselves.

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  30. Ravyn Sage

    I live in WA and was shocked to see this, 1st I heard of it. I called all the numbers and told everyone I know. The govenor’s office is being flooded. There is hope!!

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  31. annabel

    PERTH, WESTRN AUSTRALIA –
    Have emailed all washington officials & wildlife mob.
    Posted to as many fb groups that i could.
    Not suRe what else i cant do as I’m in Australia (0415am)
    Wish i could do more but have to get some snooze before the rugrats need to get up for school.
    I hope & pray that common sense prevails and that these amazingly beautiful & intelligent creatures will be left to live their precious lives in peace.

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    • Suzanne Stone

      It’s amazing and greatly encouraging that people from so far away are trying to help. We deeply appreciate it. Let’s keep it up! We are being heard.

  32. Sheri Williams

    I am so disgusted with the human race. How we feel that we have the RIGHT to destroy another living creature is beyond my thinking! I am also pro-life so no mistaking on what ground I stand. God created everything under the sun…not to exclude the animal population. The wolf happens to be a relative of man’s best friend…the dog!!! Yet we have laws that protect the abuse of animals which is not excluding jail time. So, why not the killing of wolves…a penalty and jail time to be given to each person responsible for the killing of these awesome animals. Here here in praise!!!!

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  33. Carrie Gunzel

    Please, do whatever you can to stop this horrible act of violence and these beatiful animals. I just sent letters to the Governor’s office and WDFW and I hope you all do the same. Our voices do matter!!

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  34. William Elliott

    It is absurd to kill anything without first proving that they are the problem and non-lethal means tried to their fullest extent. My god where are we, the caretakers headed but down the path of self destruction?

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  35. Randy Comeleo

    Called Gregoire’s office this morning and was told she is out-of-state but aware of the situation. Left a message for assistant director Pamplin asking: (1) what happened to incremental removal as described in the management plan?, (2) if experts are questioning the investigation, wouldn’t it be prudent to hold-off on the kill order and conduct a review?, and (3) recommended they read the review of lethal control by Harper, et al. J. Wildlife Mgt. 2008 which reviewed lethal control and found that non-lethal methods – even a simple increase in human presence – did more to reduce future livestock depredations than trapping and killing.

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  36. James

    Sent emails to the govenor and director of fish & wildlife to NOT allow the short sited killing of the wedge pack. This is senseless and ignorant
    at best. James, MS Environmental Science SIUE

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  37. Michael

    To add insult to injury, these cattle are grazing on public land. Why are we allowing the ranching community who continues to graze on public land, the ability to dictate how we manage our wildlife?

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  38. Cheryl

    Update, please! I phoned the Governor’s office and the Dept. of Fish and Wildlife. Dept. stated they had received thousands of calls. Did the effort make a difference?

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  39. james moran

    Do not kill this pack. These wolves are on public lands.

    The future welfare of wolves (and of other animals in their eco-system) demands that this pack be spared the sentence of a stupid, senseless death.

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  40. Catherine

    Please provide any updates that you may have re: the fate of the Wedge Pack. Thank you.

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  41. Pamela Rizzoli

    I have read all off the above comments and agree with every single one that is in support of saving these beautiful animals THAT HAVE A RIGHT TO LIFE ON THIS PLANET…..JUST AS EACH OF US DO! What’s next? The reckless killing of human beings without provocation and those that comprise CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE?

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  42. Michael

    Compensate the rancher, provide the rancher with non-lethal predator deterrents, and relocate the pack!

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  43. Ellen

    I wrote to Gregoire’s office with only a standard reply that their office would get back to me. No reply as yet! (its been several days now)
    Also wrote to Phil Anderson, Director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife and was sent a ‘form’ letter that they have had so many people addressing this issue that they can’t answer specific questions!! In other words, they don’t want to deal with our questions / complaints!

    Ranchers send their livestock out into the Nat’ll Forests knowing there are predators who make their home there. They have the option to keep their livestock safe on their property or to send them into the home of predators. Then they whine and complain when livestock are wounded or killed for food. Hello?

    I feel so sorry for both the livestock and the predators. Both are just trying to survive. The Ranchers are thinking of their ‘pocket books’ and not for the safety of their livestock. The wolves are just trying to stay alive. When will ranchers and hunters stop persecuting the poor wolf. They need to be educated and less greedy.

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    • Anne Lewis-Strobell

      I am only O.K. with cows in the forest as long as wildlife is not wiped out because of it. Here in New Mexico people move into wildlife territory and then expect all the wildlife to be killed so coyotes (or cougars or lobos or bobcats or owls) don’t eat their cats or chickens, meanwhile cats are endangering birds. Cows are innocent creatures, better in pastures than the wilderness. I know there’s sometimes no other place to graze them, but don’t wipe out wolves. Stick some more cowboys in there or something.

    • Anne Lewis-Strobell

      P.S. to my last reply–Someone in NM shot a grand elk with massive antlers(a trophy size according to Game and Fish)- and left it to rot. People are always poaching around here all the time, and yet people complain about wolves and lions killing deer and elk. Stop all the poaching and road kill and I bet there’s enough for people as well as other predators. People are the most destructive predator.

  44. gary

    wolves they have to eat right ???? thats why they kill.do u eat ?? u kill to eat rite ???? so set up feeding grounds for the animals to eat. it only makes sence. so try it you waste money on everything else. what do u think a helicopter read to kill costs ???? think think not KILL.

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  45. Steve

    These wolves are coming closer and closer to our communities. We should have the right to manage them, I live near these wolves and our community has to deal with them. I am sure everyone on here lives in a large city where these creatures are no threat. Yes they are beautiful but they are also killing machines that will eat themselves out of house and home. Let’s keep there numbers healthy, a wolf pack will use such a large range and cover so many mountains. Our area will be devastated if the number continues to grow at there current rate. Think about it, if we don’t manage there numbers they will eat more than there carrying capacity and die off. This will take awhile but that’s how mother nature works. From one extreme to another. I think a lot of people on here are uneducated but I’m sure that’s what you’ll all say about me. Who cares when it comes down to it, I don’t need anyone to tell me what I can and can’t manage on my land. Have a good day

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    • Laura Perkinson

      PS Steve I live in the Country. I keep my animals safe from wildlife. they have as much right as we do here, in fact more.mankind has killed off more then his share yet no one goes out to kill off those who do? but then this is all about what one man wants.

    • Julie W.

      Steve – this is such a disappointing (if not well-articulated) reply. Of course they are coming closer to our communities…because we are trying to turn their (and other wildlife’s) homes into our own! They have no where else to go. And if rancher’s are not being responsible to protect their own “inventory”, that is not the wolves’ fault. I am all for mother nature working through these issues, but that is for NATURE to do, not us. We have to stop this attitude of altering land and creature populations based on our whims or inconveniences. It is just immoral in the grand scheme of things to live this way. I like to practice the Golden Rule and that applies to all earthlings, not just people. We have to respect predators too — afterall, that is the way God created them and they are only living as He intended.

    • Millie Sheen

      I know what your saying and I agree in fact the reason they are coming closer is because A. they need food and in winter months it may be hard to find with smaller easy to catch prey hibernating and B. we are taking over their land with our buildings and road… They can’t help eating its how nature works.(like you say) one day Steve you never know the pack may grow too big and they could quite possible kill themselves it has been done before I sure hope it doesn’t happen But it could. I love wolves and I can’t stand what we are doing to them. Killing them off i mean. As you may have seen me comment before when an animal is gone it’s gone forever and is never coming back. We must stop killing them!

    • Andrea

      Steve,
      Thats a myth that those who support wolves are all urbanites. I too live in the deep country and make an effort to prevent predation. A little effort goes a long way. You should try it sometime.

    • Malcolm Burns

      I grew up in Montana, so no I am not one of the big city people you talk about. My father was a federal biologist and was responsible for several hundred thousand acres of land. I saw him shut down grazing on federal land because the livestock were causing extreme damage to the land. I also saw him try to get hunting laws and quotas for big game changed. The wolves are not the problem. It is ignorant people like yourself that are to blame for the wildlife problems. Every year, we found several large bull elk that were gut shot and left to die because some lazy creep did not want to track what he shot! As far as cattle go, if you want them on federal land, you need to realize that bears and wolves and cougars will kill cattle. Also, they will eat poisonous plants or fall and get killed. Many of the attacks carried out in Montana are by dog packs, not wolves. Wolves will eat what they kill, not torture it.

    • Marga

      Steve, what you wrote here is absolut nonsense. No wolf will ever
      come close to you and if you are not able to keep your lifestock
      protected than that is your fault!!!! The wolf is not the BAD guy, you are!
      These animals have the same rights to live as we, the socalled humans,even more, as they were here long before mankind did!!!!
      I’ve lived in the countryside in Canada, so I know what I’m talking about.Besides, are you a vegetarian???
      Your whole article makes me sick, in my eyes you just like to KILL!!

    • Bluebird

      To Steve
      Let me suggest to you, that instead of culling and killing these grand and beautiful creatures, that you look first to health matters closer to home by ensuring that the waste your town throws out, is managed in a more suitable way so the wolves don’t come into your town……or,

      Why not set up a wolf eating area outside of your town perimeter. I’m sure you could arrange for some of the edible food to be left there for the wolves. Wolves are bright, and will soon get used to the regular eating area. That way, you will not have to pick up a gun at the first sight of one.

      How about that!!!

  46. Laura Perkinson

    This makes me sick! only 3 weeks ago they were going to work it out with this ONE Rancher who is grazing cattle on OUR land. not his but OUR land and he expects the wolfs to know or say ” oh look that is a cow. lets leave it alone!

    This makes me furious!

    Make the Rancher bring his damn cattle in!

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    • Millie Sheen

      Exactly!
      You can’t expect a wolf to sit there and watch some cattle graze. They were probably going to get killed anyway! If the whole pack gets wiped out I will be furious, because if it were us we would kill it! It’s easy prey and for a hungry pack it must be like gold dust! And it was only 1 rancher that’s all it takes 1 rancher to make a fuss and a whole pack is in jeopardy! If you don’t want the cattle to be eaten by innocent creatures MOVE THE CATTLE!!!

  47. Linda Way

    The whole pack ??? Why ? The cows were going to die anyway, they are cows. The rancher should move. He should be in his nice safe little home in the city. this is so wrong. The ranchers let the stupid cows run around the whole public lands and make thousands of dollars when they round them up and take them to slaughter. I am so sick of these fu$*$^g ranchers. They suck

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  48. Joseph Wayne Tanner

    It’s truly sad that some people still have this fear and hatered of Carnivorous Predators like Wolves isn’t about we stop the hatered for these Predators and learn to live in peace and harmony with them I mean the only Big Bad Wolf that exist is in Fairy Tales, and Folktales I doubt Real Wolves would really attack people here in the Untied States of America, Europe, and Asia would be those with rabies.

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  49. MS O

    We actually adopted a wolf not knowing she was an alpha wolf pup, thinking she was a Husky or Malamute cross with something…she had been a stray. EVery dog we came up to or came to us would just automatically roll over when she walked up. Amazing. All male and female dogs except pit and sharpei puppies…they were just pups. She was so smart. We learned a lot. They do react to instinct far more than a dog, and I mean by pheromones. And rightly so, their hearts are grand. They are magnificent. We had her doing 33 tricks by nine months at 92 pounds. we took her to Mans Best Friend to see baout training…they kept us waiting for 1 1/2 hours only to return and excitedly say that she was the smartest dog they had ever seen….well we left a little dispapointed because we figured if we had done that much, they wouldn’t be able to do much more than we already were…I won’t disclose my secrets but it is something that costs about a dollar. So…my take on this is these animals are extremely brilliant and trainable. I think the use of deterents more applicable and large dogs like the Boz dog or KAngals or other asian working dogs to protect are worthwhile…there are videos showing the work of these dogs against wolves. There is no comparison. No guns needed…However I think a few gunshots are also appropriate. Fear is a deterrent for every other creature out there and these packs, if new would not have a lot of fear of humans. Or get a couple of mules or other killer animals as pack animals for the herds. Our wolf once chased a man up to no good into his apartment…she loved babies and puppies and would pratically do flips for them…never hurt our cat, etc…never overly agressive to anyone except this man. She was as big as the doorway…that tall at 9 months…he barely made it in the house…she was going for his neck…it was a split second door shut that saved him. I don’t think much would have stopped her…he was a block away when she started after him when he was running. He was a drug dealer. She was a very rightous alpha female. In their world there are no guns. Respect of humans can only be by fear. Killing them may not be necessary. Just Respect. Apparently there were no bulls with the cows….that may have made a big difference, eh? We have been chased by many public land cows…they aren’t nice…dogs, humans..makes you wonder if those cattle were too completely naive to be put out on public land.

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    • Anomymous

      Sometimes when a K9 gets really angered at a person like that it means they have tortured animals before or ate dog. Btw a wild wolf would never attack a human for no reason huh? I mean maybe if you run up to it and start beating it and his/hers puppy’s it would attack to defended itself.

  50. Millie Sheen

    I can’t see why they are killing them of they have no proof of the wolves killing the livestock and even if they did they were just feeding the pack remembering this pack has several pups to feed as well as four adults.It is unfair on the poor creatures. As you said in this report these are particularly important as they are on the border so why kill them. I don’t agree with any animal being killed needlessly.

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  51. John D

    Calls of a larger/stronger pack (Recorded) played at certain times WILL keep another ‘pack’ in their ‘own’ area,

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  52. lorishermer

    wolves should be allowed to roam freely but protected from evil men and their plets as well our copuntries great great come back after being wiped out to almost the point of extinction and the newest come backin yellowstone in the 1980s . Now we must start all over again with a stronger law that prevents the republicans from all their dirty work

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  53. lorishermer

    Wolves should be allowed to roam freelyand unharmed by evil man and hes quest for pletsAnd shouldnt have to make asecond comeback from the 1980s in yellowstone and else where.afteralmost being wiped off the united states map a thrid time

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  54. Antonia Vassila

    Please save the rest of the pack, dont permit hunting and trapping, since there is no evidence that this specific pack atacked to the livestock. Ranchers and farmers always accuse wolves.

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  55. S. O. Rooney

    I’m am appalled at man’s ignorance as well, but attacking the ignorant with insults and names surely will not change their attitude, or even make them think. So you end up preaching to the choir. How many people are concerned about wildlife and animals and still eat them. If you care, become a vegetarian. (Fish, too.)It is hypocritical not to be. Then address the ignorant with sensitivity, courtesy and information, not just rants.

    And one more thing. One will make a much better case for their cause if they at least try to use a little better punctuation and grammar. At least the venerable period, for Pete’s sake. Otherwise we look like the ignorant ones.

    That said, thank you all for your concern and willingness to take part in the “conversation.”

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  56. terry clark

    I, think that those wolf should not be killed,as we all know people who hear stories or get stories told abouth them, they can easylie say it was a wolf when it wasn’t. To kill a whole pack is outrages, and agains none proof that it was the wolfs, in canada and any other wild nature in the USA are many other and more bigger animals than a wolf.
    to point the finger on them is going on now over the last 4 month very strong, for hunting , and not even shooting as it is normal more like torture, its abouth time those wolfs should be left in peace and not killed or disturbed nor hunted down as it would be the last animal in the world.
    we all like to live in peace, and they also have the right to live in peace. DONT shoot them, as it has not been proofen it was the wolf, its like to hang some one and later found out this some 1 was innocent, what than?

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  57. Dr. Marcus von Weigert

    “Steve’s” reply is ignorance personified. All that is missing from this rambling and self-deluded narrative is the part about how wolves “huff, and puff, blow houses down, and eat little pigs, grannies, and girls in red jackets.” I live in a remote rural area, not “a large city” and own a large private nature preserve and wildlife sanctuary that is located in the Sequoia National Forest near Kernville/Lake Isabella, California. We are fortunate that the largest and most influential local cattle rancher, who comes from a pioneer family that has been in the area for generations, is also an educated, compassionate, and fore-sighted person who has partnered with local conservationist and preservationist interests to protect our native wildlife, as well as historical sites and Native American cultural and religious sites. Sadly we do not have wolves in our area, but our other top-tier predators like mountain lions, bears, and coyotes have no problem co-existing with the humans and domestic animals who reside in their natural range and habitat.

    Further, Steve should refrain from calling people uneducated unless he is looking in the mirror. Sane and meaningful wildlife and other natural resources preservation is supported by people from all walks of life and all educational levels. I myself possess numerous college and university degrees, including a Doctorate. This, and more than a half century of experience as a naturalist, conservationist, ecologist, and outdoorsman, make me better qualified to speak on this subject than the shrill, shrieking, gibbering, Chicken Little “The sky is falling, the wolves are coming!” cries and lies of the alarmist extremist haters and the gullible, misguided, individuals who parrot their nonsense.

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